1. "How did each of you first get into music? What’s the earliest memory or moment that hooked you?"

2. "Who are your favourite artists, and how have they influenced the music you create?"

3. "How did you learn to play the guitar? Did you take lessons, teach yourself, or pick it up some other way?"

4. "What were your early music careers like? Were you playing gigs, jamming with friends, or maybe in a band?"

5. "What was lifelike for you in before you crossed paths? How did music fit into that time?"

6. "How did you two meet at the pub?

7. "What happened at your first rehearsal? Was it smooth sailing, or did it take some figuring out?"

8. "How did your skills and musical tastes blend together? Did you instantly

9. "When you started creating songs together, did you bring existing lyrics or ideas, or build everything from scratch?"

10. "Did things just fall into place when you started working together, or were there hurdles to finding your sound?"

11. "So are you planning to record in a studio for your music, are you going to make an album, release your songs on Spotify, What’s your ultimate goal?"

12. "What do you feel like your emotions when you play your guitar, is it comforting, is it therapeutic?"

1. "How did each of you first get into music? What’s the earliest memory or moment that hooked you?"

[00;00;00;00 - 00;00;25;51]
Olga: How it all started. I was, about ten, nine, actually, when I discovered Nirvana. So, I wanted to play the guitar instantly, and it took a while until my parents actually got me one. There was a funny thing that my grandma played something called Tom Brown from Serbia.

[00;00;25;51 - 00;00;49;49]
Olga: So it's an instrument there for grandpas. And, yeah, that didn't really work like a guitar, but that was my first experience. Well, a few years later I would get an electric guitar. But yeah, I started officially at the age of 12, and I never got, the education, like the formal education, I was just self-taught until today.

[00;00;49;54 - 00;01;21;37]
Nacho: I was introduced to the music by watching TV, one national channel in my country. I am from Colombia. When I was around 12 or 13 years. So how are we watching videos by Nirvana? Great. 1 or 2. After that, I used to listen to one myself. All the other music, and I started to play guitar when I was 18, almost 19 years old.

2. "Who are your favourite artists, and how have they influenced the music you create?"

[00;01;22;16 - 00;01;40;13]
Olga: All right, so I discovered Silverchair, at the age of 13, and they have been my favourite band ever since. But yeah, it's. Oh, the Seattle grunge scene. Yeah, a bit of a little bit of everything.

[00;01;40;13 - 00;02;04;05]
Olga: By now, I'm obsessed with the Birthday Massacre these days, these years. So I have to make my peace with the fact that it's not a guilty pleasure anymore. They're almost my favourite band. But, yeah. Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Incubus, stuff like that.

[00;02;04;05 - 00;02;31;26]
Nacho: I started listening to Nirvana. Humbling. 1 or 2, then Chris Cornell, I look for all his projects. Solo projects, Temple of the Dog, Soundgarden. I just live, and then I was more into grunge, so I started to listen to Pajama Pilots and then finally Alice in Chains, which is almost my favourite rock band.

Olga: Almost. Which one is?

Nacho: I don't know. I think probably Alice in Chains.

Olga: Is going to be Silverchair.

Nacho: No, no, no. Yeah.

Olga: I'm not arguing with that.

3. "How did you learn to play the guitar? Did you take lessons, teach yourself, or pick it up some other way?"

[00;02;31;27 - 00;02;49;45]
Olga: Yeah. No. No lessons. I don't think I've had a single lesson. There's been people trying to teach me stuff, but everyone just gets irritated by the way I hold a guitar.

[00;02;49;45 - 00;03;11;51]
Olga: By the way, I hold a pick. So, whatever they teach me, I end up going back to my original style because it's the easiest and I don’t really care about what people think, how it looks as long as it sounds well. And I really like being original and self-discovered. So yeah, no formal education so far.

[00;03;11;51 - 00;03;37;17]
Nacho: I started when I was 18. I was at university, there was a friend in the university. He was playing the guitar. I asked him if he knew how to play some songs by Nirvana. He showed me some and he taught me. He taught me how to learn to read the tabs on the internet. And I started like that by myself. Was watching, looking forward to the songs that I wanted, trying to figure it out.

4. "What were your early music careers like? Were you playing gigs, jamming with friends, or maybe in a band?"

[00;03;37;21 - 00;04;02;24]
Olga: Okay, that's a bit of a story. So, I actually told my parents to get me an electric guitar if I passed the test for high school with the maximum points, nobody believed I would, and I did.

[00;04;02;29 - 00;04;19;55]
Olga: So they had to get me a guitar. But there was a condition, of course, and the condition was not to take the guitar out of the house until I graduate from university. And we’re talking about the age of 14. So that was forever. So I was really unmotivated, but I still played and I played a lot in my room.

[00;04;19;55 - 00;04;45;40]
Olga: So, the first band I would have at the age of 30, like my 30s, were actually packed with the band experience and that was great. That was like playing live mostly under different genres, three different bands. I always wanted to have a girl grunge band, but that's still a mission. But yeah, I got Nacho now, so I don't need girls.

[00;04;45;45 - 00;05;14;42]
Nacho: My project basically was, the first one, with some friends from my childhood. When we didn’t know how to play the instrument, but we started to try to play some songs. But at the end, it was more like drinking than playing. Then when I was like 24, I finished my university. I looked for a group of people on the internet for creating a new band.

[00;05;14;46 - 00;05;38;29]
Nacho: Hey all, we were from over time, but we didn’t know before and that wouldn’t work very well. I played with them like two years. We made good, we made a good friendship. And then I played bass guitar in one band after that. Then I came here, wanting to have been there. The next project I had.

5. "What was life like for you before you crossed paths? How did music fit into that time?"

[00;05;38;34 - 00;05;59;10]
Olga: Oh, it was a bit of a break, so I moved to Australia in 2021, right after Covid. And ever since, I've been trying to find people to just occasionally play music with because I really miss doing that. And that's the best outlet for me.

[00;05;59;15 - 00;06;20;59]
Olga: So that was the plan just to play something, and it was impossible. Whoever I would come across with, they would be too busy, too unmotivated, to anything, but not what I needed and what I wanted to do. And I just wanted to play music. So, yeah, finally finding Nacho, it’s like, it’s like digging gold.

[00;06;20;59 - 00;06;46;15]
Olga: Like, I can’t believe it happened. Somebody is finally here, and we’re actually making our songs. It’s. I don’t want to talk too much about it because I don’t want to jinx any of it. It’s the best thing that’s ever happened musically to me.

[00;06;46;20 - 00;07;12;13]
Nacho: And, yeah, when I came here, I stopped off trying to look for people for a project, but I always was recording ideas on guitar and on my cell phone. But then when I met Olga, that was like the first time when I, hey, told about come back to, to play something like, a real project. And it had worked very well. She’s very creative and, and she’s very enthusiastic that way. I was dying again. That’s not that reason.

6. "How did you two meet at the pub?"

[00;07;17;04 - 00;07;41;11]
Olga: Oh, I can say, Deb, we actually met in person in the pub, and, yeah, we just started talking about music because we have, like, we had known before that we had similar influences in similar taste. But I told him about my plan to have a Veruca Salt cover band.

[00;07;41;11 - 00;08;07;04]
Olga: That’s a dream. And we started showing each other what we’ve got, like our recordings from our rooms, like just playing the guitar and singing. And we figured out that it was precious. So we just decided to try to rehearse. And then the magic happens. So we just started creating our songs. Super productive. Being super productive. I prefer that.

[00;08;07;09 - 00;08;36;46]
Nacho: Yeah. Like she said, we met at the pub we arranged, you know, we had some bands in common, and then we showed and exchanged ideas and we played the next week. And after we met in the pub, I bought an acoustic guitar for that time. I sent the files by WhatsApp, she made the lyrics on the voice on what I hear tonight, the next weekend.

[00;08;36;51 - 00;08;58;50]
Olga: Yeah, I think that’s the most magical thing that actually happened. The first recordings that he sent me. Just playing your guitar in your room. Just pieces of ideas. Nothing really formed and structured. I just heard the lyrics instantly and I had the whole song in my head, so I just recorded my voice over his recording. And that’s how it started.

[00;08;58;51 - 00;09;21;42]
Olga: That’s how our first song came to life, The Ghost, and we continued with the practice, and within two months we’ve like ten, eight songs already and seven fully done. And eight is happening now and it’s just been over two months. Yeah.

7. "What happened at your first rehearsal? Was it smooth sailing, or did it take some figuring out?"

[00;09;21;47 - 00;09;51;28]
Olga: I can’t really remember. I just know it was—
Nacho: I remember I was a little nervous—
Olga: I wasn’t—
Nacho: I met her. And we started to play some covers because we didn’t have material. So we played it and home.
Olga: What did we play?
Nacho: We played Hole—
Olga: Oh, we played Hole, yeah—
Nacho: Blame Party Jam, Nirvana. Some songs. We worked on The Ghost, which was the first idea that we were working. We almost made all the final idea of The Ghost that night. I think we started with a take on the song music, the intro and the chorus. Yeah.
Olga: So it started happening straight away, and then we dropped all the other people’s songs and just continued with our stuff.
Nacho: Yeah.

8. "How did your skills and musical tastes blend together? Did you instantly click, or was it a process?"

[00;10;22;18 - 00;10;44;52]
Olga: I don’t think it was a process. It was the most instant click I have ever experienced in my life. And I feel like my skills are improving because I’m so motivated to just practice. And, yeah, but nothing’s changed. It’s just really who I am. I got to be who I am in this project, and that’s really magical.

[00;10;44;57 - 00;11;05;15]
Nacho: Yeah. From the beginning we were very similar. We had a lot of chemistry. So the first time when we were here, same. I think it was pretty good on. We learned how to build our songs after the first day. So until today we are doing the same way.

9. "When you started creating songs together, did you bring existing lyrics or ideas, or build everything from scratch?"

[00;11;05;20 - 00;11;30;17]
Olga: No, so I wrote the last song like 20 years ago, over 20 years ago when I was 19, and I haven’t really been creative ever since. Everything I tried were just pieces of something crazy ideas, like a bit of something, but never really for songs or anything like that.

[00;11;30;22 - 00;11;52;48]
Olga: Ever since they started happening, the lyrics just happen. It’s like we’re not even creating them. They just come to us like the other night when you said it was like it was so tired, so exhausted. But like, we pressure each other to just make it happen. And it happens like it’s sent to us. I don’t mean to be like woo-woo about this, but honestly, it’s just so easy to come so naturally. And that’s how it happens.

[00;11;52;48 - 00;12;17;52]
Nacho: Yeah. Like she said, we don’t have lyrics before them in the songs from the ones that we have so far. A for hey, we’re like a small idea that I had before, but for the idea that we have made, as soon as we record something, she starts to work on the lyrics. Yeah.

[00;12;17;52 - 00;12;38;06]
Olga: But did you notice the curious thing is, if we don’t do it straight away, it goes away and it just remains in the file for later. And that’s why we’re becoming conscious of it and just pushing ourselves, even when we’re tired, to finish the songs. Because they have to. All of them have to be finished in one go and just touched up later.

[00;12;38;13 - 00;12;59;27]
Nacho: Right. I know and a lot of factors and like commitment. Like, we feel like a lot of responsibility to each other when someone does something like we push each other to try to do it faster.

10. "Did things just fall into place when you started working together, or were there hurdles to finding your sound?"

[00;12;59;32 - 00;13;23;47]
Olga: Yeah, but I just feel like it’s all in sync and we’re still looking for the sound. So we’ve been rehearsing outdoors because it’s beautiful summer days and we only get to do it on Saturdays because we’re both really busy. But yeah, the plan is to go into the rehearsal room and make it electric and then play with all the effects.

[00;13;23;47 - 00;13;49;00]
Olga: So it’s still work in progress. We’re still finding our sound in terms of technology, but we already know what we are and what we want to achieve. Yeah, I think it’s pretty clear.

[00;13;49;05 - 00;14;08;58]
Nacho: The other thing is we are still looking for the other people. The drummer and the bassist for now, we have one drummer, but we only played with him once, so we’re still working on that. We are doing it so far.

Olga: Yeah, we are enough as a duo, but yeah, it would be good to have the whole band and just to have the full-blown sound.

11. "So are you planning to record in a studio for your music, are you going to make an album, release your songs on Spotify, What’s your ultimate goal?"

[00;14;09;03 - 00;14;32;20]
Olga: The ultimate goal was actually to record it for our own memory just to have this, formed and recorded. Because these are not ideas collected over the years. And then the structure added by the both of us and the lyrics and singing and everything just kind of combined together. And blended well.

[00;14;32;25 - 00;14;54;47]
Olga: So we just wanted to record it, to remember it. Nothing too professional, but now, I don’t know, it feels like sky’s the limit. It’s just the matter of finding the right people. We’ve been talking to producers, but it’s not easy. So we may end up recording something in our drummer’s place. He’s got an interface and a software that could help us.

[00;14;54;47 - 00;15;14;49]
Olga: So we could start with a demo in a professional environment first. But we’ll see how far we could. We can use those signals light and we’ll see.

12. "What do you feel like your emotions when you play your guitar, is it comforting, is it therapeutic?"

[00;15;14;54 - 00;15;46;15]
Olga: Yeah. Therapeutic would be. Yeah. Would be for me.

Nacho: All right guys, for me, like, achieving one goal that I always had. Yeah, I always had the same person. Personal project. And even if it’s not going to be, like, super huge, it’s always that. I always wanted, at least for listening to at home, just for me. But from the beginning, I told her that I was interested in recording and she was interested in recording.

[00;16;07;33 - 00;16;32;04]
Olga: So now we are changing a little bit. I mean, we are doing something bigger and a bit of both. Like, now you’re open to playing. Like, we could actually end up playing live tomorrow because people just see us playing outside and they hear us, and then they end up being musicians and they invite us to do a song or something like that.

Nacho: By coincidence, we have been like meeting people like, let’s say, like you as well, which this project was another coincidence because we were looking for, and I’m here on Facebook when I saw your post for the project.

[00;16;32;04 - 00;16;51;44]
Olga: So it’s like, all together again. Yeah. So when I started talking to you, I thought you were the drummer. It’s not too late. Okay? Now, I could play the drums. Oh, yeah. You look like a drummer. But honestly, like, this looks really like your thing. You really look in your natural environment doing this. Honestly, I used to.

Second Interview (No Questions, Just Letting Them Talk One on One)

[00;00;00;00 - 00;00;21;16]
Olga: All right. Ready? Go. What? I think the main thing about this band is the fact that we don’t really have a plan. And we didn’t start it to make money, or to be successful or to be famous. I would hate to be famous. I love my privacy. Like, can you imagine, like walking down the street and just approaching. It’s scary.

[00;00;21;18 - 00;00;43;38]
Olga: No, I don’t want any of that. So I think the best feature here is that we actually just enjoy playing music. Well, as you said, it’s therapeutic for me, but for some of you, for your own, that. Honestly, like, I never told you that I’m really scared of being famous. Yeah, I like that. Oh. Oh, would you feel if we actually succeeded?

[00;00;43;43 - 00;01;11;15]
Nacho: No, no. I don’t like to be, like, centre of attention. I am very introverted, so it’s very used to be normal.
Olga: So I think we’re doomed to success because of it. Because you always get what you’re scared of.
Nacho: But you can deal with that.
Olga: We can deal with anything. Yeah.
Nacho: Especially you.
Olga: Thank you, I think this combination especially like how we drive each other in, in this and how we actually motivate each other.

[00;01;11;20 - 00;01;35;44]
Olga: Like we said before, like we push each other into something. I wouldn’t really call it pushing. Yeah. Like high motivation that we can’t. Yeah. We can’t really let go and.
Nacho: Yeah I know there is a reason. Everything has been so spontaneous. Yeah. From the beginning because I never had expectations of starting this project here in Australia in Sydney.

[00;01;35;51 - 00;01;59;50]
Olga: Yeah. Yeah. Me. Yeah. Especially in Sydney where they’re like, people are more. No, nobody’s oriented to rock music anymore around here. It’s impossible to find people who are actually into this kind of stuff. So Melbourne would be probably a better scene for us, but I think we’re starting a new grungy road in Sydney. This is what’s happening. Let’s deal with it.

[00;01;59;55 - 00;02;29;44]
Olga: It’s unstoppable. Yeah. Yeah. It’s a passion, right? Good for music. It actually, it’s. It’s something that’s with both of us all the time, right? Yeah. When I’m down the street, like, just walking down the street there. Always have the headphones there.

[00;02;29;44 - 00;02;52;08]
Olga: There’s always music happening. So it really means so much to me, right? Yeah.
Nacho: For me as well, and especially rock music is the only kind of music that I really love. I am from that country where all the people really love dancing and they like all the rooms, all the salsa and reggaeton. Yeah. And I always have been totally aware of that scene.

[00;03;07;27 - 00;03;27;55]
Olga: Yeah. So repeat that about salsa and reggaeton. That’s like a thing that I was scared of when I met you. And when I heard where you’re from, and I’m like, oh, no. And now the dude that’s going to make me do salsa.
Nacho: Yeah. No, no, never. I’m doing. They already are going to listen to me. Yeah, yeah.

[00;03;27;55 - 00;03;58;40]
Olga: That’s awesome. So you actually turned out to be the greatest guy in this world. And I’m really happy about. So I finally have my grunge band. That’s like a teenage dream and also adult dream. Like, all of my dreams are actually here in this, in this country grunge band and in this country. Being a Silverchair fan and finally moving to Australia and so close to Newcastle, where my favourite band is from and then starting my own grunge band.

[00;03;58;42 - 00;04;15;33]
Olga: How much better can it get? That’s it. Yeah, that’s rock n roll.

[00;00;00;00 - 00;00;21;16]
Olga: All right. Ready? Go. What? I think the main thing about this band is the fact that we don’t really have a plan. And we didn’t start it to make money, or to be successful or to be famous. I would hate to be famous. I love my privacy. Like, can you imagine, like walking down the street and just approaching. It’s scary.

[00;00;21;18 - 00;00;43;38]
Olga: No, I don’t want any of that. So I think the best feature here is that we actually just enjoy playing music. Well, as you said, it’s therapeutic for me, but for some of you, for your own, that. Honestly, like, I never told you that I’m really scared of being famous. Yeah, I like that. Oh. Oh, would you feel if we actually succeeded?

[00;00;43;43 - 00;01;11;15]
Nacho: No, no. I don’t like to be, like, centre of attention. I am very introverted, so it’s very used to be normal.
Olga: So I think we’re doomed to success because of it. Because you always get what you’re scared of.
Nacho: But you can deal with that.
Olga: We can deal with anything. Yeah.
Nacho: Especially you.
Olga: Thank you, I think this combination especially like how we drive each other in, in this and how we actually motivate each other.

[00;01;11;20 - 00;01;35;44]
Olga: Like we said before, like we push each other into something. I wouldn’t really call it pushing. Yeah. Like high motivation that we can’t. Yeah. We can’t really let go and.
Nacho: Yeah I know there is a reason. Everything has been so spontaneous. Yeah. From the beginning because I never had expectations of starting this project here in Australia in Sydney.

[00;01;35;51 - 00;01;59;50]
Olga: Yeah. Yeah. Me. Yeah. Especially in Sydney where they’re like, people are more. No, nobody’s oriented to rock music anymore around here. It’s impossible to find people who are actually into this kind of stuff. So Melbourne would be probably a better scene for us, but I think we’re starting a new grungy road in Sydney. This is what’s happening. Let’s deal with it.

[00;01;59;55 - 00;02;29;44]
Olga: It’s unstoppable. Yeah. Yeah. It’s a passion, right? Good for music. It actually, it’s. It’s something that’s with both of us all the time, right? Yeah. When I’m down the street, like, just walking down the street there. Always have the headphones there.

[00;02;29;44 - 00;02;52;08]
Olga: There’s always music happening. So it really means so much to me, right? Yeah.
Nacho: For me as well, and especially rock music is the only kind of music that I really love. I am from that country where all the people really love dancing and they like all the rooms, all the salsa and reggaeton. Yeah. And I always have been totally aware of that scene.

[00;03;07;27 - 00;03;27;55]
Olga: Yeah. So repeat that about salsa and reggaeton. That’s like a thing that I was scared of when I met you. And when I heard where you’re from, and I’m like, oh, no. And now the dude that’s going to make me do salsa.
Nacho: Yeah. No, no, never. I’m doing. They already are going to listen to me. Yeah, yeah.

[00;03;27;55 - 00;03;58;40]
Olga: That’s awesome. So you actually turned out to be the greatest guy in this world. And I’m really happy about. So I finally have my grunge band. That’s like a teenage dream and also adult dream. Like, all of my dreams are actually here in this, in this country grunge band and in this country. Being a Silverchair fan and finally moving to Australia and so close to Newcastle, where my favourite band is from and then starting my own grunge band.

[00;03;58;42 - 00;04;15;33]
Olga: How much better can it get? That’s it. Yeah, that’s rock n roll.